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+ - Az elszegenyitett uranium vitahoz: (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

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Az elszegenyitett uranium vitahoz:
Regi motto: "riogatni csak pontosan, szepen, ahogy a csillag megy az
egen"..
?j motto:"Kicsit sugarozgat, de nagyon-nagyon mergezo.."
Rengeteg adat van, csak mutatoba adtam le egyet. Most egy masikat, csak egy
rov
id idezetet mellekelek. - Pi.
Michel  Chossudovsky > (Professor of Economics at
the Un
iversity of Ottawa, author of The
Globalization of Poverty, Impacts of IMF and World Bank Reforms, Third
World Ne
twork, Penang and Zed Books, London)
1997.aprilis 12-en Ottawaban tartott sajtotajekoztatojabol nehany reszlet:
The Use of Weapons banned by International Convention
The NATO bombings have also used of weapons banned by international
conventions. Amply documented by scientific reports, the cruise missiles
utilize depleted uranium "highly toxic to humans, both chemically as a
heavy metal and radiologically as an alpha particle emitter". Since the
gulf War, depleted uranium (DU) has been a substitute for lead in bullets
and missiles. According to scientists "it is most likely a major
contributor to the Gulf War Syndrome experienced both by the veterans and
the people of Iraq". According radiobiologist Dr. Rosalie Bertell,
president of the International Institute of Concern for Public Health:
"When used in war, the depleted uranium (DU) bursts into flame [and]
releasing a deadly radioactive aerosol of uranium, unlike anything seen
before.  It can kill everyone in a tank. This ceramic aerosol is much
lighter than uranium dust.  It can travel in air tens of kilometres from
the point of release, or be stirred up in dust and resuspended in air with
wind or human movement.  It is very small and can be breathed in by anyone:
a baby, pregnant woman, the elderly, the sick.  This radioactive ceramic
can stay deep in the lungs for years, irradiating the tissue with powerful
alpha particles within about a 30 micron sphere, causing emphysema and/or
fibrosis.  The ceramic can also be swallowed and do damage to the
gastro-intestinal tract.  In time, it penetrates the lung tissue and enters
into the blood stream. ...It can also initiate cancer or promote cancers
which have been initiated by other cancinogens".
According to Paul Sullivan, executive director of the National Gulf War
Resource Center:
"In Yugoslavia, it's expected that depleted uranium will be fired in
agricultural areas, places where livestock graze and where crops are grown,
thereby introducing the spectre of possible contamination of the food
chain."
The New York based International Action Center called the Pentagon's
decision  to use the A-10 "Warthog" jets against targets in Serbia "a
danger to the people and environment of the entire Balkans". (Truth in
Media, 10 April 1999). In this regard, a report in from Greece:
"registered an increase in levels of toxic substances in the atmosphere of
Greece, and said that Albania, Macedonia, Italy, Austria and Hungary all
face a potential threat to human health as a result of NATO's bombing of
Serbia, which includes the use of radioactive depleted uranium
shells".(April 10, 1999, see Truth in Media, 10 April 1999).
Address: Department of Economics,
University of Ottawa,
Ottawa, K1N6N5
    Voice box: 1-613-562-5800, ext. 1415
    Fax: 1-514-425-6224
    E-Mail: 
Piros )

Az elszegenyitett uranium vitahoz: <BR>
Regi motto: "riogatni csak pontosan, szepen, ahogy a csillag megy az
egen"..<BR
>
?motto:"Kicsit sugarozgat, de nagyon-nagyon mergezo.."<BR>
Rengeteg adat van, csak mutatoba adtam le egyet. Most egy masikat, csak egy
rov
id idezetet mellekelek. - Pi. <BR>
<BR>
Michel  Chossudovsky > (Professor of Economics
at
the University of Ottawa, author of The Globalization of Poverty, Impacts
of IM
F and World Bank Reforms, Third World Network, Penang and Zed Books,
London) 19
97.aprilis 12-en Ottawaban tartott sajtotajekoztatojabol nehany reszlet:
<BR>
<BR>
The Use of Weapons banned by International Convention<BR>
The NATO bombings have also used of weapons banned by international<BR>
conventions. Amply documented by scientific reports, the cruise
missiles<BR>
utilize depleted uranium "highly toxic to humans, both chemically as a<BR>
heavy metal and radiologically as an alpha particle emitter". Since the<BR>
gulf War, depleted uranium (DU) has been a substitute for lead in
bullets<BR>
and missiles. According to scientists "it is most likely a major<BR>
contributor to the Gulf War Syndrome experienced both by the veterans
and<BR>
the people of Iraq". According radiobiologist Dr. Rosalie Bertell,<BR>
president of the International Institute of Concern for Public Health: <BR>
<BR>
"When used in war, the depleted uranium (DU) bursts into flame [and]<BR>
releasing a deadly radioactive aerosol of uranium, unlike anything seen<BR>
before.  It can kill everyone in a tank. This ceramic aerosol is much<BR>
lighter than uranium dust.  It can travel in air tens of kilometres
from<BR>
the point of release, or be stirred up in dust and resuspended in air
with<BR>
wind or human movement.  It is very small and can be breathed in by
anyone:<BR>
a baby, pregnant woman, the elderly, the sick.  This radioactive
ceramic<BR>
can stay deep in the lungs for years, irradiating the tissue with
powerful<BR>
alpha particles within about a 30 micron sphere, causing emphysema
and/or<BR>
fibrosis.  The ceramic can also be swallowed and do damage to the<BR>
gastro-intestinal tract.  In time, it penetrates the lung tissue and
enters<BR>
into the blood stream. ...It can also initiate cancer or promote
cancers<BR>
which have been initiated by other cancinogens". <BR>
According to Paul Sullivan, executive director of the National Gulf War<BR>
Resource Center: <BR>
"In Yugoslavia, it's expected that depleted uranium will be fired in<BR>
agricultural areas, places where livestock graze and where crops are
grown,<BR>
thereby introducing the spectre of possible contamination of the food
chain." <
BR>
The New York based International Action Center called the Pentagon's<BR>
decision  to use the A-10 "Warthog" jets against targets in Serbia "a<BR>
danger to the people and environment of the entire Balkans". (Truth in<BR>
Media, 10 April 1999). In this regard, a report in from Greece:<BR>
"registered an increase in levels of toxic substances in the atmosphere
of<BR>
Greece, and said that Albania, Macedonia, Italy, Austria and Hungary
all<BR>
face a potential threat to human health as a result of NATO's bombing
of<BR>
Serbia, which includes the use of radioactive depleted uranium<BR>
shells".(April 10, 1999, see Truth in Media, 10 April 1999). <BR>
<BR>
Address: Department of Economics,<BR>
University of Ottawa, <BR>
Ottawa, K1N6N5<BR>
<BR>
    Voice box: 1-613-562-5800, ext. 1415<BR>
    Fax: 1-514-425-6224<BR>
    E-Mail: <BR>

Piros )
+ - Re: *** HIX KORNYESZ *** #652 (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, HIX KORNYESZ wrote:
Gacs Ivan ur nehany szosszenetere reagalni kell.
Illes Zoltan nem az OAB megszunteteset javasolta, hanem annak a
felhaborito allapotnak a megszunteteset, hogy mint az OAB, ill. a
mellerendelt tudomanyos tanacs lenyegeben csak pronuklearis, elkotelezett
szervezetek prominens kepviseloit tartalmazza, holott tudomasom szerint ez
serti az Atomtorvenyt is. Vajda akademikus, aki uralja ezt az egeszet,
elnoke az europai es a magyar nuklearis tarsasagnak, amelyek latvanyos
propagandat fejtenek ki az utobbi idoben. Kivancsi lennek, milyen penzbol
egyebkent, mikozben tudomasom szerint az Atomtorveny altal eloirt
Nuklearis Alap feltoltese is akadozik. Jomagam egyebkent jelen voltam az
Atomtorveny 1996 oszi bizottsagi vitain. Vajda Gyorgy lesoport minden
olyan modosito javaslatot, amely akarcsak halvany garanciat jelentett
volna arra, hogy a a szoros haveri korukon kivul mas is ott lehet. A
veszpremi Kanyar Belan kivul nincs elfogulatlannak tekintheto szemely a
tudomanyos bizottsagban sem. Felhaborito, hogy az a Sztanyik B. Laszlo,
aki a csernobili katasztrofa idejen a kozvelemenyt felrevezeto informaciok
forrasa volt, meg ma is foszakertokent tetszeleghet.
 Mellesleg Vajda ur aldasos tevekenysegenek (no es persze a KTM-KOM
mindenkori gyengesegenek) koszonheto az is, hogy a vilagon
egyedulallo modon - Magyarorszagon nincs semmifele szervezeti kapcsolat a
kornyezetvedelmi tarca es a nuklearis biztonsag kozott. Tehat meg ok sem
delegalhatnak oda senkit. Ez megmutatkozott
pl. a legutobbi INEX-2 gyakorlatnal is, ahol epp a kornyezetvedelmi
felugyelosegek nem kaptak semmi feladatot.


> Megertem az ismeretlentol valo felelmet (az ordogtol is azert felunk,
> mert meg nem ultunk le vele kartyazni, lehet, hogy nagyon
> joindulatu), de nem tartom jo tanacsadonak.
Sajnos , Gacs Ivan is rossz tanacsot ad. Elfelejti ugyanis, hogy a
kiszorodas pontszeru - lokalis, vagyis a helyi feluleti szennyezettseg
igen magas lehet, a becsapodas utan pedig a por-aerosol is. Alfa-sugarzo
inkorporaciojarol lehet szo inhalacioval, esetleg ingestioval a
szennyezett taplalekkal, vizzel. Az inhalacio raadasul olyan matrixban -
finom por, kvarc,
fempor, stb, amelyek igen melyre deponalodhatnak a tudoben, ha pedig a
hilusi nyirokcsomokba kerulnek, akkor praktikusan elethosszig ott
maradnak. Ez Irakban pl. a szetlott tankokban jatszo gyerekeket is
erintett, no meg itt magas radon-ill radontermekszint is kialakulhat egyes
helyeken.
 Mellesleg - ez engem is meglepett, de teny - az MTA Izotop Intezetenek
hosszu nevu utodja korlevelben kert teljeskoru tajekoztatast meg olyan ,
korabban abszolute nem nuklearis anyagnak szamito anyagokrol is, mint pl.
az uranil-acetat. Vagyis ezek megsem olyan piskotak.
                                             Kobor Jozsef
+ - koernyezetkimelo hoeszigeteles (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

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