Kedves Bajnok Janos es minden SPORT-olvaso!

>Azt hiszem nem oldottad meg a  problemadat!

Nem tudom, mekkora vitat sikerult akaratlanul kavarnom "nyilvanos 
lemondasommal", ha egyaltalan, mivel a SPORTot, ugye, mar nem olvasom. Most
csupan Janos levelere reagalnek, amit volt oly kedves nekem szemelyesen is
elkuldeni.

Talan rosszul fogalmaztam (gyakran megesik velem :), de en *NEM* kozvetlenul a
foci miatt mondtam le a SPORTot. Egyesek itt megprobalnak tulsagosan nagy ugyet
faragni ebbol (?), de az okom sokkal prozaibb volt: lassan ismet napi 50-100
levelet kapok, amibol csupan 10-15 az, ami valodi maganlevel. Sem idom, sem
energiam nem engedi, hogy abszolut mindent figyelemmel kovessek - szeretnek
mast is csinalni az eletemben, mint csak email-eket olvasni. (A problema
illusztralasara eleg annyit, hogy a levelezoprogramomban marcius kozepere
datalodott elolvasatlan levelek (Hirmondo, angol nyelvu hirek, etc.) is
szunnyadnak...) Sajnos, az altalam kezdemenyezett tisztogatasnak a SPORT is
aldozatul esett, tobbek kozott azert, mert a nagy reszet mar eleddig is csak
atlapoztam, kulonos tekintettel a foci hirekre es tablazatokra. Termeszetesen
mas hireket, amik akadtak, nagy szorgalommal elolvastam, ha idom engedte.

>Szerinted kellene kulon foci levelezesnek, kosar levelezesnek, lkezilabda
>levelezesnek lennie? Nem szukitene le ez egy kicsit a latokunket?

Nevezzetek ezt beszukulo latasmodnak, nevezzetek ezt megfutamodasnak, 
nevezzetek ezt annak, aminek akarjatok. En csak azt tudom mondani, hogy az nem
allapot, amikor az ember mar napi 3-4 orat tolt el csupan azzal, hogy atLAPOZZA
es atolvassa a napi leveltomeget es valaszolgat erre-arra, es nem jut semmi
masra ideje... Valahol meg kell huzni a hatart, s en ezt most megtettem.

Szoval nincs harag, es mindenkit udvozlok!

Sziasztok, tovabbi jo SPORTolast!

>u.i. Remelem a dontoben Utah-Chicago parositas lesz, es a Bikak feje porba
>hull  :-))))))

Ahogy kineznek a dolgok, orulok, ha Atlantan tuljutunk... :-/

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Keleti Konferencia kozepdonto, 2. meccs

Atlanta Hawks - Chicago Bulls
          103 : 95
           (1 - 1)

A mai kozvetitest ismet a legendas John Paxson kommentalta harmadmagaval, de
sajnos a vegeredmenyen ez semmit nem segitett.

Mindket csapat roppant nehezen kezdett, es az elso negyed elejen rengeteg
kosarat hagytak ki. Aztan a Bulls belodult, es egymas utan gortak be a
kosarakat, de erdekes modon a Hawks sem maradt le teljesen. A masodik negyedben
egy eleg kiegyenlitett kuzdelmet lathattunk, ahol pusztan a szerencsen mulott,
hogy a felido elerkeztekor eppen Atlanta vezetett.

Vagy megsem?

A Bulls szokasosan eros 3. negyede ezuttal eleg gyengecskere sikeredett. 
Atlanta szepen lassan eloretort, igaz, 5 pontnal messzebb sosem leptek meg.
Szinten ebben a negyedben Rodman "termeszetesen" kapott egy technikai faltot.
De hogy miert, azt erdekes modon a stadionban levo kabe 25 ezer ember kozul
csak egyvalaki tudna megmondani - a fobiro. Rodman a kosar alatt
osszeakaszkodott a karjaival Mutombo-val, aki alig akarta elengedni ot. Rodman
egy rosszallo pillantast vetett a birora - es kesz. Ennyiert mar technikait
lehet kapni az NBA-ben, kulonosen ha Rodmannak hivjak az embert... Mi johet meg
ezutan? Rossz gondolatert szemelyi hiba?...

Ron Harper folyamatosan kiemelkedo teljesitmenye (3-pontos kosarak, ellopott
labdak, leszedett lepattanok tomege) sem tudta azonban megallitani Atlantat. A
negyedik negyed kozepeig meg csak-csak tartotta magat a Bulls Pippen es Jordan
jelenlete nelkul, de hamarosan azon kaptak magukat a szurkolok, hogy kedvenc
csapatuk mar 14 pont hatranyban van. S ebbol mar nem tudtak kiasni magukat, meg
a valosziunuleg hullafaradt MJ es Pipp visszaterese utan sem. Ugyan par perccel
a vege elott Kukoc bedobott egy 3-pontos kosarat, amivel a Bulls 7 pontra
csokkentette a Hawks elonyet, de ez is kevesnek bizonyult.

Ja, meg valami: a palyat ezuttal sem onszantabol hagyta el Rodman, mert a 4.
negyedben bekapta 6. faltjat. A kozonseg egy hangon kezdte el kantalni, hogy
"Bullsh*t! Bullsh*t! ..." (Ezt inkabb nem forditom le magyarra. ;-)


ATLANTA HAWKS (103)
                      fg    ft    rb
               min   m-a   m-a   o-t  a pf   tp
Laettner        40  6-16   6-9   0-5  1  4   18
Corbin          36   1-4   2-2   1-4  1  2    4
Mutombo         39  8-11   3-6  6-15  1  3   19
Smith           40  9-19  8-11   0-2  0  3   27
Blaylock        46  9-13   0-0   0-7  9  1   26
Henderson       18   1-2   1-2   0-5  0  4    3
Hancock          8   0-0   0-2   0-3  0  0    0
Recasner        10   3-5   0-2   0-0  1  0    6
James            3   0-1   0-0   0-0  0  1    0
Barry          DNP - coach's decision
Lauderdale     DNP - coach's decision
Newbill        DNP - coach's decision
_______________________________________________
TOTALS         240 37-71 20-34  7-41 13 18  103
_______________________________________________

Percentages: FG-.521, FT-.588. 3-Point Goals:
9-15, .600 (Laettner 0-1, Smith 1-4, Blaylock
8-9, James 0-1). Team rebounds: 16. Blocked
shots: 4 (Mutombo 2, Henderson, Hancock).
Turnovers: 14 (Blaylock 5, Laettner 2, Mutombo 2,
Henderson, Recasner, Smith). Steals: 5 (Blaylock
3, Hancock, Smith).


CHICAGO BULLS (95)
                      fg    ft    rb
               min   m-a   m-a   o-t  a pf   tp
Pippen          44  9-18   2-2   1-4  9  4   24
Rodman          26   1-5   0-0   2-5  0  6    2
Longley         19   2-3   0-0   1-3  2  5    4
Harper          31   6-9   0-0   1-8  4  1   15
Jordan          44 12-29   3-3  6-16  6  2   27
Kukoc           27  5-12   3-6   0-1  5  3   15
Brown            6   0-2   0-0   0-0  0  1    0
Williams         6   0-4   0-0   0-0  0  0    0
Kerr            11   1-3   0-0   0-0  1  0    3
Caffey           7   0-2   0-0   1-2  0  1    0
Buechler         9   1-1   0-0   0-1  0  2    3
Parish          10   1-4   0-0   1-2  0  2    2
_______________________________________________
TOTALS         240 38-92  8-11 13-42 27 27   95
_______________________________________________

Percentages: FG-.413, FT-.727. 3-Point Goals:
11-30, .367 (Pippen 4-8, Harper 3-5, Jordan 0-6,
Kukoc 2-7, Kerr 1-3, Buechler 1-1). Team
rebounds: 6. Blocked shots: 11 (Longley 3, Harper
3, Parish 3, Rodman, Jordan). Turnovers: 9
(Longley 2, Harper, Jordan, Kerr, Kukoc, Pippen,
Rodman). Steals: 5 (Harper 3, Brown, Pippen).
____________________________________________
Atlanta            27   26   23   27  -  103
Chicago            28   23   19   25  -   95
____________________________________________
Technical fouls: Chicago 1 (Rodman, 9:03 3rd).
Flagrant fouls: None.  A: 24,544. T: 2:14. Officials: Nolan Fine,
Ed F Rush, Steve Javie.


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Chicago Bulls - Atlanta Hawks
          100 : 80
           (2 - 1)

A most csutortoki meglepo vereseg utan nagy varakozas elozte meg ezt a meccset.
Mind Jordan, mind Pippen Rodmant jelolte meg, mert hiszen amint o megkapta a
technikai faltjait, az a csapat egeszere is kihatott. Kukoc kivetelevel a
teljes kispad is meglehetosen gyer eredmenyt tudott csak felmutatni a masodik
fordulo elso ket meccsen. Egyszoval nem allt valami jol a Bulls szenaja.

Sajnos, az elso felido szinte pontos masa volt a fordulo masodik meccsenek. A
Bulls szetesett tamadasai es verszegeny vedekezese nem okozott nagy nehezseget
Atlantanak. Rodman ertheto okokbol nem volt a kezdo otosben (helyette Jason
Caffey indult), de sem MJ sem Pippen nem nagyon villogott. Az egyetlen
(szamomra) humoros esemeny az volt, amikor mutombo blokkolta valamelyik
Bulls-jatekos dobasat, es elfordult a kozonseg fele, hattal a palyanak, hogy
ismet meglengesse mutatoujjat felejuk. Valoszinuleg azt hitte, hogy a labda
elhagyta a palyat, de pechjere nem ez tortent, s mikozben o meg hattal allt az
akcionak, Pippen kozvetlen mogotte bezsakolt. 

A masodik negyed sem volt sokkal szebb. A Hawks legnagyobb vezetese 10 pont
volt, Rodman alig jott a palyara, es osszegyujtott ket faltot meg egy
technikait is (mert ki merte utni Mutombo kezebol a labdat sipszo utan). Ennel
a pontnal Rodmannak csak a masodik forduloban 10 faltja es 4 technikaija volt.
A felidoben 6 ponttal vezetett a Hawks.

Hanem a 3. negyed vegen mar a Bulls volt elol 3 ponttal! Hogyan tortent ez?
Beleerositettek, elkezdtek vedekezni, a dobasaik elkezdtek bemenni. Raadasul a
negyed vegen Jordan meg pihenot is kapott.

Aztan jott a fenomenalis 4. negyed! Jordan a kosarra ment, Mutombo blokkolta,
de Brian Williams leszedte a kipattano labdat es bezsakolta. Aztan jott Kerr
egy 3-pontossal - az elso volt neki ezen a meccsen. Hanem az igazi
fordulopontot a mindvegig nagyon jol jatszo Kukoc hozta meg kabe a 4. negyed
felenel: mar eppen lejart a 24 mp-es tamadoido, amikor Kukoc kezebe kerult a
labda, jo messzire a kosartol, kabe masfel-ket meterrel a 3-pontos vonal
mogott. Kukoc nem sokat teketoriazott, eleresztette a labdat. Egy
orokkevalosagnak tunt, mire a kosarig ert - es BEMENT!

Innentol kezdve minden osszejott a Bulls-nak: minden dobasuk bement, 
jobbra-balra lopkodtak el a labdakat, Atlanta megnyekkenni sem tudott. Brian
Williams (14 pontjabol 10 a 4. negyedben), Kerr, Harper, no meg Kukoc mind
nagyot alkottak ebben a negyedik negyedben. 6:50-nel a vege elott mar 14 pont
volt a Bulls elonye, ami behozhatatlannak bizonyult a Hawks szamara.

Pippen es Jordan az elozo meccs utan arrol panaszkodott, hogy nem megy a 
kispadnak. A mai meccsen sem ok, sem Rodman nem volt faktor, viszont a 
kispadosok megmutattak, hogy ok is tudnak jatszani!


CHICAGO BULLS (100)
                      fg    ft    rb
               min   m-a   m-a   o-t  a pf   tp
Pippen          37  8-20   1-2   3-5  5  1   17
Caffey          28   5-8   0-0  8-11  2  2   10
Longley         20   2-2   1-6   3-6  1  5    5
Jordan          39  8-20   5-5   3-9  3  3   21
Harper          31   3-6   2-2   0-5  4  3   10
Kukoc           26  6-12   2-2   1-4  5  4   16
Rodman           7   1-1   0-0   2-3  2  3    2
Brown            4   0-1   0-0   0-0  0  0    0
Williams        22  7-11   0-1   3-5  1  4   14
Kerr            17   2-6   0-0   0-3  1  3    5
Buechler         9   0-2   0-0   2-2  1  0    0
Parish         DNP - coach's decision
_______________________________________________
TOTALS         240 42-89 11-18 25-53 25 28  100
_______________________________________________

Percentages: FG-.472, FT-.611. 3-Point Goals:
5-19, .263 (Pippen 0-6, Jordan 0-1, Harper 2-4,
Kukoc 2-4, Kerr 1-4). Team rebounds: 6. Blocked
shots: 3 (Jordan 2, Pippen). Turnovers: 13
(Jordan 5, Pippen 4, Caffey, Kerr, Rodman,
Williams). Steals: 10 (Jordan 2, Kerr 2, Kukoc 2,
Williams 2, Harper, Longley).


ATLANTA HAWKS (80)
                      fg    ft    rb
               min   m-a   m-a   o-t  a pf   tp
Corbin          32   4-8   0-0   2-6  0  3    9
Laettner        33  3-11   7-7   1-6  3  4   13
Mutombo         43  4-10  8-11  7-12  2  1   16
Smith           33  3-13   4-5   2-3  0  2   13
Blaylock        39  3-10   3-4   0-2  6  2   10
Hancock          9   1-2   0-1   1-1  1  1    2
Henderson       24   5-8   3-4   1-5  0  5   13
Recasner        17   1-3   1-1   0-0  1  0    4
James            5   0-1   0-0   0-0  0  0    0
Lauderdale       3   0-0   0-0   0-0  0  0    0
Barry            2   0-0   0-0   0-0  0  0    0
Newbill        DNP - coach's decision
_______________________________________________
TOTALS         240 24-66 26-33 14-35 13 18   80
_______________________________________________

Percentages: FG-.364, FT-.788. 3-Point Goals:
6-22, .273 (Corbin 1-4, Laettner 0-1, Smith 3-9,
Blaylock 1-6, Hancock 0-1, Recasner 1-1). Team
rebounds: 8. Blocked shots: 5 (Mutombo 4,
Laettner). Turnovers: 19 (Blaylock 4, Laettner 4,
Henderson 3, Mutombo 3, Recasner 2, Hancock,
Smith). Steals: 2 (Blaylock, Corbin).
____________________________________________
Chicago            20   26   25   29  -  100
Atlanta            24   28   16   12  -   80
____________________________________________
Technical fouls: Chicago 3 (Williams, 0:00 1st;
Illegal Defense, 9:18 2nd; Rodman, 0:05 2nd). 
Atlanta 2 (Henderson, 0:00 1st; Smith, 8:11 3rd).
Flagrant fouls: None.  A: 16,378. T: 2:31.
Officials: Bob Delaney, Hugh Evans, Derrick
Stafford.

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Mivel nem irja meg senki, hat beirom en, hogy az amerikai 11-eses
megoldas ket dologban lenyegesen kulonbozik (pl. az NBI-es probalkozastol).
	Igy a meccsek 11-essel torteno eldontese elleni ervek egyresze
egyszeruen nem erv az amerikai szisztema ellen.

	Az elso kulonbseg, hogy az USAban a szetloves nem 11-essel
tortenik, hanem specialis buntetovel. Kapus a kapuban, jatekos a
kezdokorben a labdaval. Sipra indul mindketto. Vagyis a kapus is rohan
kifele. A jatekos vezeti a labdat, es vagy atlovi a kapus felett, vagy
kicselezi (elfekteti) a kapust es ugy lo golt.
	A masik lenyeges(!) kulonbseg, hogy ha jol emlekszem az NBI-ben
mindket csapat kapott 1-1 pontot es a harmadik pontot kapta aki az 11-es
parbajt nyerte. A (rendes jatekidoben) gyoztes csapat termeszetesen harom
pontot kapott.
	Nos az USAban is harom pont jar a gyoztes meccs utan. De a
szetloves utan (ami a dontetlen eredmenyt koveti) a gyoztes 1 pontot kap a
vesztes NULLAT!! Vagyis dontetlen eredmenynel mindket csapat probal golt
rugni mert minimum ket pontot er a gyozelmet jelento gol.

	Horvath Pista

HEllo,


Sajnos 1-0 utan 1-2 lett az eredmeny a Fradi gyoztes golja az utolso percben
esett. A radiokozvetites szerint a jatekvezetok jopar lest tevesen iteltek az
UTE ellen. Valoszinuleg a jobb eronlet dontott a Fardi javara hiszen a
merkozest
az utolso negyedoraban forditottak meg.
A Fradi szurkolok szetszedtek a szektorukat, az UTE szurkolok viszont
megdobaltak az Fradi jatekosokat.


udv:

a2

Helloka!

Ha estleg valamelyikotok utazik Japanba, kerem irja meg a magancimemre, 
esetleg talakozhatunk Kumamotoban!

Hajra Magyarok!
HufSte

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