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11 Re: Looking For Hungarian Word Processor (mind)  20 sor     (cikkei)
12 USA/Hungary - OMRI Daily Digest No.165, Aug/24/95 (mind)  64 sor     (cikkei)
13 USA/Hungary - CET On-Line Vol.2, No.164, Aug/24/95 (mind)  118 sor     (cikkei)
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+ - Re: ... / beer (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,  s
ays...
....
>(2) I was surprised to find only german beer in bars. Beside the great
>wine tradition, is there no beer tradition in Hungary ?
>
I just returned from a wonderful trip to Hungary with my Hungarian fiancée. We 
stayed mainly in a small 
village near Gyor called Mosonszentmiklos. As far as beer was concerned I found
 a great beer brewed in the 
neighboring village of Lebeny. The beer was called Pelikan Sor. The brewery was
 part of a very charming new 
restaurant. Then there is also the national Aszok brand beer that is also quite
 good.

Dan Leeaphon
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
+ - Re: Dissidence (was Re:...Detractors) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
Wally Keeler > wrote:
>
>That's fine with me. If I wanted to give a really cheap insult I would
>have converted the $1.95 to forints, or worse yet, to lei ;-)

Now you're talking ...
>
>I remember receiving copies of Ellenpontok, but on this side. I copied
>and distributed. One of its replacements was Erdelyi Magyar Hirugnokseg,
>which had detailed several occasions when thousands of Magyars were
>"drafted" to work as forced labour at Cernavoda. It was claimed that
>there was a demographic motive in this -- the removal of Magyars from
>Transylvania to Cernavoda where the process of assimilation could more
>easily be accomplished. Among those "drafted" were some community leaders
>so as to break up any social cohesion. The Securitate were good at this

The timing of your comments couldn't be better!  One of the Hungarian guys 
from your country just posted a news story on the Hungarian (HIX) Web
site about the revelations of a former Securitate officer in Timisoara
that supports your suspicion exactly.  Col. Roland Vasilievici talked
about a 20-year plan of Ceausescu that started in 1977 and was aimed to
"purify" Romania of the five ethnic elements they considered dangerous to the
Romanian people.   Supposedly this plan is still in effect, but with
different style.

>Historian Ion Ardeleanu, one of the formulators of the contemporary
>Romanian approach to history, personally intervened to change the script,
>even as the film was in production. He announced: "When it comes to this
>topic, no reference can be made to the iron Guard. And as for Romanian
>fascism, in the future we shall forbid any publication concerning that
>subject."

Well, if only this was the biggest con game by Romanian "historians" ...

>Interestingly, the last time I was in Budapest (1991) I managed to get
>inside the room of forbidden literature kept at the National Library in
>Buda Castle.

Wasn't it the National Archives (Orszagos Leveltar) instead?

>The Horthy fascist documents were restricted by the communists because
>they might point to the names of many persons who continued in various
>positions of power from Horthyist to communist regimes. It is similar to

Now you, too, play fast and loose with the adjective "fascist".  Horthy
was anything but fascist!  I think you meant his successor, Szalasi, who
was put in place of Horthy by the Germans when Horthy wanted to get
Hungary out of the war.

>I met with one man (who will remain unnamed) on three seperate occasions
>in Budapest. He was unrepentant recidivist. He was born in TS, jailed &
>tortured there, and now lives in Hungary. His life is devoted to the
>subterfuge of Romania in one way or another. He is the Hungarian
>equivalent of Funar, albeit, not quite as influential, thank goodness.

After what that guy went through, his attitude is more understandable
than Funar's who has not experienced such things from the Hungarians.

Joe
+ - Re: Family Name Info (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
Béla P. Havasréti > wrote:
>
>What I wanted to say at the end of my last post was that I am a first
>generation Hungarian American.  That is to say, all my relatives were
>born in Hungary.  Good luck with your quest.... 

Are they all as good at the piano as your Dad (Mr. "Have-us-ready", Sr.) is?

Joe
+ - UTE -Kassa [r] (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

UTE - F.C. Kassa   2:1 (0:0)
Tova'bbjuto' az UTE.

Szia
	Pista

   XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

                              Ing. Godo Stefan
                       Dept. of Chem. & Biochem. Eng.
                       Faculty of Chemical Technology
                         Slovak Technical University
                            Bratislava, Slovakia
                              

   XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


                            Ez itt a reklam helye


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+ - Looking For Hungarian Word Processor (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Hi:

Does anyone know where I can download or order a Hungarian Word
Processor? Magyar/English preferred. Any assistance appreciated.

Thx
Howard
-- 
*********************************************
  |  St. Petersburg  Fla.
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*********************************************
+ - Re: Dissidence (was Re:...Detractors) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
T. Kocsis  > wrote:
>
> The really sensitive is the list of
>those people who were in charge under the Szalasi regime
>and continued under the Communists. I know one such
>individual, a survivor artist, who was the soldier of
>Szalasi then politician in the after '45 democratic
>coalition then soldier/politician under  Rakosi's
>stalinist era, then took part in the '56 revolution then
>immigrated to USA and lived there as hero of '56 and
>tought history at university level than returned to
>Hungary around '89 and  became a Member of Parlament
>again.
>
Wouldn't his initials be K. B. by any chance? ;-)

Joe
+ - Eljen a Fradi!!!!! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Fradi - RSC Anderlecht 1:1 (0:0)

Remelem a kovetkezo ellenfelek ellen is legalabb igy megy majd...

Pista
+ - Re: a pomegranate (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >  (ibokor) write
s:
>Frank J. Holly ) wrote:
>: P.S.  By the way  with the symbols  a'  I meant a letter a with a ' over 
>: it.  This is pronounced in Hungarian as the Spanish "a"  or in English , 
>: the "o" in the word rob.  a in Hungarian is pronounced as "u" in cut.
>I think you've got this  wrong way round.

He is American, for him "rob" has the sound of Spanish a or Hungarian a',
and his "u" of "cut" might be more like Hungarian a than like British "cut".
But you are right, British "rob" is close to Hungarian a, not a'.

-- Olivier
+ - Looking for lost friends (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Fellow Hungarians,

Again I turn to you for help.

A Hungarian family is looking for two long lost friends. The names are:

JANOS URAY & ANNA FENYES

There is a possibility that Janos could be in Canada.

If you know or hear of these people or perhaps they are listed in your
local telephone directory, please contact me.

Thank you,

Steve Mihaly
Hungarian American Heritage Network
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REGIONAL NEWS
-------------

**SERB AND CROAT CHURCH LEADERS MEET IN HUNGARY**
  Serb and Croat church leaders are holding their first formal
  meeting since the outbreak of war in the former Yugoslavia.
  The meeting was organized on neutral ground in the Hungarian
  town of Kecskemet. The church leaders say religion should play
  an important role in ending the conflict.  But they add faith
  has its limits and the peace process will be long and mainly
  political.  Croats and Serbs share a common language and much
  of their culture but follow different branches of
  Christianity, the croats beong predominantly Catholic and the
  Serbs Orthodox Christians. The conference excluded Muslim
  leaders. The meeting's organizer, retired Hungarian Lutheran
  Bishop Karoly Toth, says the Muslims' presence might have
  caused tensions the conference could not handle.  Toth says
  he hopes more groups will be invited to talks in the future
  that would include more significant negotiations.

**KLAUS RULES OUT BLANKET DEAL FOR SUDETEN GERMANS**
  Czech Prime Minister Vaclav Klaus has ruled out making a
  blanket offer to resettle the families of the two and a half
  million Sudeten Germans expelled by the Czechoslovak
  government after World War Two. In an interview in the Czech
  daily Mlada Fronta Dnes published Wednesday, Klaus says
  post-war claims by the Germans have to be settled on a
  case-by-case basis.  Klaus says most of those who were
  expelled from the Sudetenland, who now largely live in
  Germany, would not want to return.  Czech and German officials
  have been conducting low-key talks in an attempt to reach an
  agreement to settle post-war claims from both sides.  They
  have been dogged by questions of culpability for the war and
  its aftermath that have emerged since the fall of communism in
  1989.  There is lingering resentment among Czechs of the
  welcome many members of the German minority in the Sudetenland
  border territory gave to Hitler's forces in 1938.  The Czechs
  have resisted demands for compensation for the families of the
  Sudeten Germans who were expelled and whose property was
  confiscated after the German occupation ended in 1945.


**FERENCVAROS PUSH ASIDE ANDERLECHT TO ENTER CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE**
  Budapest's primary soccer club, Ferencvaros, Wednesday eliminated
  Belgian champions Anderlecht from the European Champions'
  Cup and becane the first Hungarian club to reach the final
  stages of the competition, the Champions' League. At the
  club's Ulloi Ut stadium, the team managed a 1-1 draw in the
  second leg after defeating Anderlecht 1-0 in the first leg in
  Belgium two weeks ago.

BUSINESS NEWS
-------------

**GM'S CORSA ECO TO CHALLENGE SKODA**
  General Motor's Opel unit is challenging Skoda Auto on its home
  turf.  Opel has announced it will sell its base compact Corsa
  Eco for about 8,600 dollars - only 600 dollars more than the
  cheapest Skoda model, the Felicia LX. Opel is the first foreign
  carmaker to seriously challenge the price advantage offered by
  Skoda, a unit of Volkswagen.  Skoda's domestic sales make up
  roughly a third of its estimated annual 1995 output of 210,000
  units.

**HUNGARY'S MOL AND AUSTRIA'S OMV MAY BUY INTO ADRIA PIPELINE**
  Austrian oil and chemicals group OMV and Hungary's MOL are
  interested in buying a stake in Croatia's Adriatic Oil
  Pipeline Joint Stock Company, according to OMV chief executive
  Richard Schenz. Schenz told  a news conference on Wednesday
  that OMV and MOL will start joint talks with the Croatian
  government in September.  The two firms are looking at a 15
  percent stake in the state-controlled company, which operates
  the Adria pipeline from Rijeka in Croatia to Gola on the
  Hungarian border.  Schenz says the Adria pipeline would
  provide an alternative to the existing Transalpine pipeline
  and Adria-Vienna pipeline.  He wouldnot say how much OMV and
  MOL are prepared to pay for the stake.

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In article >,  (H & G BROW
N) says:
>
>Does anyone know where I can download or order a Hungarian Word
>Processor? Magyar/English preferred. Any assistance appreciated.
>
Is it not possible to use any WP like WordPerfect, MS-Word, etc, with 
the Hungarian keyboard (or tape over the existing ones) and DOS Code 
Page changes in your autoexec.bat and config.sys files (and perhaps the
WP config setup too.)?? A comprehensive DOS book will have the full info.

I'd be interested to see some feedback on whether this has worked for 
anyone out there....

I only use Hungarian chars very occasionally (for names) so rely on 
invoking the accented chars by activating NUM LOCK holding down ALT and
then typing in the numerical value and then letting go of ALT. But this
is, of course, unsatisfactory for fully fledged word-processing.     

Szászvári György
+ - USA/Hungary - OMRI Daily Digest No.165, Aug/24/95 (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

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YELTSIN SIGNS LAW ON BENEFITS FOR SEMIPALATINSK RADIATION VICTIMS.
President Yeltsin has signed the Law on Social Protection for the
Victims of Radiation Caused by Nuclear Tests at the Semipalatinsk test
site in Kazakhstan, Krasnaya zvezda reported on 24 August. The law,
passed by the Duma on 20 July, entitles people who suffered from
radiation caused by the nuclear tests at Semipalatinsk between 1949 and
1963 to privileges and benefits equal to those granted to the victims of
the Chornobyl accident. -- Penny Morvant, OMRI, Inc.

KARADZIC WANTS 64% OF BOSNIA. AFP on 23 August quoted Bosnian Serb
leader Radovan Karadzic as saying that the Serbs must have 64% of the
land in any settlement because that is the amount they legally own. He
did not mention the land taken violently, and one of his statements in
particular suggested a hearty appetite: "Our territory must be integral,
it must have territorial continuity. It is of vital importance that our
borders be on the Sava and Una Rivers, that the Drina River is ours,
that we have a part of Sarajevo." His "foreign minister," Aleksa Buha,
praised the "U.S.-Russian" peace project, while Bosnian Foreign Minister
Muhamed Sacirbey said that there is "no American plan, but an
initiative." Elsewhere, U.S. President Bill Clinton named a new team of
envoys to the former Yugoslavia. Meanwhile in Jakarta, Indonesian
officials on 24 August announced that the Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian
presidents had agreed "in principle" to meet in Indonesia, which
currently chairs the Non-Aligned Movement. -- Patrick Moore, OMRI, Inc.

U.S. MILITARY DELEGATION IN ALBANIA. Secretary of the Army Togo
West is leading a U.S. military delegation to Albania on 24 August,
Rilindja Demokratike reports the same day. West will meet with President
Sali Berisha and Defense Minister Safet Zhulali and visit U.S. army
units deployed to reconstruct a hospital in Tirana in the framework of a
military-medical exercise called "Crystal Water 95." West brings with
him a donation of medical supplies worth $500,000. Elsewhere, deputy
Chief of the General Staff Armand Vincani received the commander of an
Italian frigate that will participate in joint exercises with the
Albanian navy beginning on 26 August. -- Fabian Schmidt, OMRI, Inc.
  
[As of 1200 CET]
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REGIONAL NEWS
-------------

**SERB AND CROAT CHURCH LEADERS MEET IN HUNGARY**
  Serb and Croat church leaders are holding their first formal
  meeting since the outbreak of war in the former Yugoslavia.
  The meeting was organized on neutral ground in the Hungarian
  town of Kecskemet. The church leaders say religion should play
  an important role in ending the conflict.  But they add faith
  has its limits and the peace process will be long and mainly
  political.  Croats and Serbs share a common language and much
  of their culture but follow different branches of
  Christianity, the croats beong predominantly Catholic and the
  Serbs Orthodox Christians. The conference excluded Muslim
  leaders. The meeting's organizer, retired Hungarian Lutheran
  Bishop Karoly Toth, says the Muslims' presence might have
  caused tensions the conference could not handle.  Toth says
  he hopes more groups will be invited to talks in the future
  that would include more significant negotiations.

**KLAUS RULES OUT BLANKET DEAL FOR SUDETEN GERMANS**
  Czech Prime Minister Vaclav Klaus has ruled out making a
  blanket offer to resettle the families of the two and a half
  million Sudeten Germans expelled by the Czechoslovak
  government after World War Two. In an interview in the Czech
  daily Mlada Fronta Dnes published Wednesday, Klaus says
  post-war claims by the Germans have to be settled on a
  case-by-case basis.  Klaus says most of those who were
  expelled from the Sudetenland, who now largely live in
  Germany, would not want to return.  Czech and German officials
  have been conducting low-key talks in an attempt to reach an
  agreement to settle post-war claims from both sides.  They
  have been dogged by questions of culpability for the war and
  its aftermath that have emerged since the fall of communism in
  1989.  There is lingering resentment among Czechs of the
  welcome many members of the German minority in the Sudetenland
  border territory gave to Hitler's forces in 1938.  The Czechs
  have resisted demands for compensation for the families of the
  Sudeten Germans who were expelled and whose property was
  confiscated after the German occupation ended in 1945.

**FERENCVAROS PUSH ASIDE ANDERLECHT TO ENTER CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE**
  Budapest's primary soccer club, Ferencvaros, Wednesday eliminated
  Belgian champions Anderlecht from the European Champions'
  Cup and becane the first Hungarian club to reach the final
  stages of the competition, the Champions' League. At the
  club's Ulloi Ut stadium, the team managed a 1-1 draw in the
  second leg after defeating Anderlecht 1-0 in the first leg in
  Belgium two weeks ago.

BUSINESS NEWS
-------------

**GM'S CORSA ECO TO CHALLENGE SKODA**
  General Motor's Opel unit is challenging Skoda Auto on its home
  turf.  Opel has announced it will sell its base compact Corsa
  Eco for about 8,600 dollars - only 600 dollars more than the
  cheapest Skoda model, the Felicia LX. Opel is the first foreign
  carmaker to seriously challenge the price advantage offered by
  Skoda, a unit of Volkswagen.  Skoda's domestic sales make up
  roughly a third of its estimated annual 1995 output of 210,000
  units.

**HUNGARY'S MOL AND AUSTRIA'S OMV MAY BUY INTO ADRIA PIPELINE**
  Austrian oil and chemicals group OMV and Hungary's MOL are
  interested in buying a stake in Croatia's Adriatic Oil
  Pipeline Joint Stock Company, according to OMV chief executive
  Richard Schenz. Schenz told  a news conference on Wednesday
  that OMV and MOL will start joint talks with the Croatian
  government in September.  The two firms are looking at a 15
  percent stake in the state-controlled company, which operates
  the Adria pipeline from Rijeka in Croatia to Gola on the
  Hungarian border.  Schenz says the Adria pipeline would
  provide an alternative to the existing Transalpine pipeline
  and Adria-Vienna pipeline.  He wouldnot say how much OMV and
  MOL are prepared to pay for the stake.

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 wrote:

> The timing of your comments couldn't be better!  One of the Hungarian guys 
> from your country just posted a news story on the Hungarian (HIX) Web
> site about the revelations of a former Securitate officer in Timisoara
> that supports your suspicion exactly.  Col. Roland Vasilievici talked
> about a 20-year plan of Ceausescu that started in 1977 and was aimed to
> "purify" Romania of the five ethnic elements they considered dangerous to the
> Romanian people.   Supposedly this plan is still in effect, but with
> different style.

The secret development of the Explosive Paprika Dish (EPD) was  suddenly
stopped after three chefs accidentally ingested  deadly doses of hot
pepper. A fourth one was so severely condimented that he started singing
old militarist Hungarian songs and raving about the "dirty olachs."
All efforts to make him stop  proved futile. The same sources indicate
that he later came to North America and became a frequent contributor on
SCR.

Mircea
+ - Re: Looking For Hungarian Word Processor (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

H & G BROWN ) wrote:
: Hi:

: Does anyone know where I can download or order a Hungarian Word
: Processor? Magyar/English preferred. Any assistance appreciated.

: Thx
: Howard
: -- 
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I have just purchased a multilingual word processor calle Accent
for Windows.  It has Hungarian as well...
    1-800-535-5216
   <<peter>>
    
+ - Re: Budapest ... / beer (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >, 
 says...
....
>(2) I was surprised to find only german beer in bars. Beside 
the great
>wine tradition, is there no beer tradition in Hungary ?
>
I just returned from a wonderful trip to Hungary with my 
Hungarian fiancée. We stayed mainly in a small village near Gyor 
called Mosonszentmiklos. As far as beer was concerned I found a 
great beer brewed in the neighboring village of Lebeny. The beer 
was called Pelikan Sor. The brewery was part of a very charming 
new restaurant.

Dan Leeaphon
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
+ - Re: *** SZALON *** #953 (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Hat en nem tudom, hogy melyik antikommunista torteneszre
gondol Horn, ugyanis a Hirmondo szerint a bizottsag tagjai: Hegedus B.
Andras, Hajdu Tibor, Kenedi Janos es Rainer M. Janos. Ezek kozul 
leginkabb
Hajdu Tibor munkajat ismerem, amit nem lehetett antikommunistanak 
nevezni.
Hajdu maga biztosan parttag volt, mivel mas kulonben nem dolgozhatott 
volna a
Parttorteneti Intezetben.

Kedves Balogh Eva!
Hegedus B. Andras es Rainer Janos az 56-os Intezetben dolgoznak. Hegedus 
56-ban forradalmar volt. Rainer kivalo tortenesz es a Kadar regime 
kritikusa.Hajdu Tibor ujabb munkai elegge "szovjetellenesek" ahogy azt 
valamikor mondtak. 
Az emlitett bizottsag produkalt egy 80 oldalas tanulmanyt amihez a 
nyilvanossag hozzaferhet. Bizony jo lenne ha egy pesti levelezoje a 
Szalonnak kozolne valamit belole.
Udv.
Peter
+ - Re: Massacre of 50 Thousand (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Gotthard Saghi-Szabo > wrote:
>On 21 Aug 1995  wrote:
>
>> Serbs made themselves a name in the "brutality department" already in WW
>> I, when the irregulars, called Komitatchiks, would brutally carve up
>> ambushed patrols, cutting off their genitals and stuffing it into their
>> mouth.  Somehow, simple killing of the enemy is not enough for Serbs:
>> they have to make the death as agonizing for their victims as possible.
>
>Joe,
>brutality is human, unfortunately, and one cannot attribute it only to 
>the Serbs. Especially this century's wars were full with them.
>Nazi Germany's torture of millions to death, Japan in Korea, Mao, Stalin.
>Our local paper - Washington Post - has a report about 
>brutality in wars almost every day. Mass graves of Bosnian Muslims killed 
>and tortured by Serbs. Mass graves of Serbs killed and tortured by Croats.
>And the latest, that shocked Israel and the Jewish community - mass 
>graves of thousands of Egyptian and other Arab POWs killed and tortured nazi 
>style. The Hungarian minority is hardly ever mentioned in the news in 
>connection with Vajdasag ( Vojvodina ). If you want to express your 
>concerns, because I guess soc.culture.magyar just won't make it, here is 
>Gyula's email-address:
>
>Horn Gyula, prime minister of Hungary :  
>
>Also, you can find the email address of your (U.S.) senator at :
>
>http://www.yahoo.com/Government/Legislative_Branch/Congressional_E_Mail_Addres
ses/ 
>
>(U.S.) House of Representative member at:
>http://www.house.gov/Whoswho.html
>
>Take care,
>Gotthard
>--
>mailto:
>http://mineral.umd.edu/~gotthard/
>
>Ten Hungarian families were forced out of their homes to make room for
Serbian refugees. The Hungarian government protested but was reminded of
the generosity of the Serbs who do not mention the Ujvidek massacres any more.T
he massacres of Magyars after the war are not well do=
cumented. Recently Hungarian historians found good information about the murder
 of many Hungarians following liberation and occupati=
on in Transylvania. Hungarian historians have already written about the Ujvidek
 crimes. But why do you want us to write to Horn abou=
t these things? Would not Belgrade be a more suitable address?
Peter I. Hidas

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