In article >,  says...

>>Yes I do think so. The funny part is that it was Russia that depended
>>on everybody around, what can be seen very clearly today. And
>>you trying to tell everybody that it was otherwise. Wake up!
>>You are fooling yourself!

>The statment above has nothing to do with reality.
>And what we see today is that Russia's economy is on grow
>despite broken connections with those on whome, you claim,
>she "depended".

Good for you.
>>I know it is very hard to understand for you in your poor mind. Your 
>way of
>>thinking force you to always think about the things you may loose whe
>n
>>doing something. That is how slave, poor and destitute mind works.
>>We are trying to think what we can gain for ourselves by doing things
>.
>>That is how the free mind works.And that is the difference beetween u
>s.
>
>By observing your style for a while, i think, you are not on a positio
>nto "tiiich" others of what "free mind" is ... ;-)

You do not have to learn. This is a free forum and there is no obligations
of any kind. You even didn have to read or respond to my writing.

>>>Now the conclusion. The NATO expansion in the form it is about to 
>>>take is another example of the impatience of the Western business
>>>and military circles to amass more muscle.
>>
>>And because it is not Russia that wants to do that, it is wrong?
>>
>>>An overwhelming majority of Russian citizens will inevitably perceive
>>>it only as an unfriendly move.

>>An overwhelming majority of  Russian citizens does not give a damn
>>about that move. They have expressed themselves very clearly.
>>They will take a fascists as their leaders, as long as they bring them
>>food and a chance for stability and peaceful life. Now live with that.

>
>       I think, your posts are penetrated with frustration, hate
>        and hypocricy. That's an impression they make. If you hate
>        russians as a nation, you would refrain to talk on this
>        subject. 

Did it hurt you? Good. It was supposed to. You can't stand the truth!

>        That's how civilized mind works ;-)

If you do not have arguments to what somebofy said you start calling
them names. Go ahead. Call me a fascist. That's all you can do!
Very civilized!


>>Russia has been going down the drain since 1917,
>>(known  on the way as a Union of the Soviet 
>>Socialist Republics) - just a reminder.
>
>
>    Russia's economy is on unprecedented grow,
>    nevertheless of broken economic structures and wild "reform"
>     of the last years.
>    Despite of "western prognoses", Russia has not and will not
>     ""go down to drain"", e.g. become the source of the cheap
>     raw materials, slave labor market and consumer of cheap
>     western junk, as it was expected. 

Pozhyviom, uvidim!


>     It has not and yet will not happen. Big Russian cities are
>      among the most expensive places in the world, with the
>      according level of living.

You can tell it to somebody that have not been there and did
not see  all these "luxuries".

Give some facts. Like how long Russian factory worker - say in
automotive industry has to work to buy a product that he makes?
>Inflation is dropped down  dramatically last year.
Give examples.

> So was the unemployment. 

Give examples.

> Russian currency is stabilized against $ and DM. 
This is an empty statement.

>      Plus, in 1997 Russia will become the world' arms exporter N1.

Death merchants. I believe it.
>      So there are no chances to see that country a ""looser"",
>      an obedient ""attachment"" to "progressive west". She
>       preserved her economic=political independency and she
>        reganes her strength.

Good luck. Weall ned it.

>      Even though there is still a "wild capitalism" stage, the
>       level of crime and corruption is much exaggerated by the
>      "sensationalist" media. It doesn't threat a growth of
>      Russian economy.

Dream on.

>        That's why this NATO hysteria. Russia today is no
>          no threat to anyone. 

The biggest lie so far.

>But it is a COMPETITOR, if not

in what. Name couple of areas, beside the arms deals.

>           today, then for real tomorrow. So she has to be
>         "made" a threat. "West" doesn't know another way to
>          compete but in wars, cold or hot ones.

Where did you come from?


Mr. Kudla
-- 
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Russia/Ukraine - 67c/min; UK - 18.5c/min; Germany - 29c/min.
Visit:  http://ld.net/?grazyna  - for details.
>

Dombi Karoly irja

"The European Middle Ages are referred to as the dark ages. This term
refers
to the general cultural state of Europe after the fall of the Roman
empire:
decaying infrastructure and economy, political and legal anarchy, poor
living
standard of the general population (lack of adequate shelter, food,
clothing,
health, hygene, education and personal security). "

A "Sotet Kozepkor" elnevezest az u.n. Felvilagosodas hozta be annak a
harcnak az eszkozekent amelyik a realiakon (foldtulajdon) alapulo hatalmat
az
ingotoke hatalmaval kivanta felvaltani. Ketsegkivul, a Kozepkor nem volt
technikai kultura, de mint szellemi, filozofiai, muveszeti kultura aligha
nevezheto
sotetnek. Ami pedig az eletszinvonalat illeti, a jobbagy a viragzo
kozepkorban
egy telek (kb 40 hold) foldet kapott megmuvelesre, es az abbol befolyo
ertek 80
szazaleka az ove maradt. A 20 % (dezsma es a maradek kilencede) valamint
heti egy napi robot jelentette az adot. Ma a U.S.-ben a jovedelem 43%-a,
Europaban a jovedelem kozel 50%-a adora megy, es senki nem kap az allamtol
ingyen foldberletet, vagy onallo meglhetest biztosito vallakozast amikor
meghazasodik.

Ami pedig Dombi ur alapkerdeset, a keresztenysegre valo atterest  jelenti,
az
egyetlen mai Europai orszag, Torokorszag amelyik nem tert at a kereszteny
hitre alacsonyabb kulturalis es altalanos anyagi szinvonalon el mint
Magyarorszag. A keresztenysegre valo atteres nem egyertelmuen a Nemet
befolyas elfogadasat jelentette, hanem az akkoriban nagyon kemeny harcot
folytato Nemet allam es Egyhazi allam, valamint a meg mindig hatalmat
jelento
Kelet Romai birodalom kozotti egyensulykereses volt, es mint ilyen minden
bizonnyal a hosszutavu tulelest jelentette.

kiss laszlo

#In article >,  
#says...

#>You are right. Nobody want's Austria back.
#>Gusztav


	mr horvat, pls make it clear that when you say "nobody wants
	austria back", you actually mean: "nobody in hungary wants
	austria back."   slovakia, and other countries have  peaceful
	and friendly relationships with their neighbours (including
	hungary, by no fault of the latter).   if you publish 
	all-inclusive formulations, a neutral reader might get the 
	impression that readers of the slovak listserve are musing along
	your lines.   that is not true.

Hello folks:

I heard from Ms. Bo:ske Tima'r that two dancers are visiting Lubbock, Texas
later in March.  She said that two boys will practice a choreography with
a local ballet dancer, and have two stages.  She said to me that she lets
me know more about event later, but I cannot wait.

Is there anybody knows about this event?  What kind of event, and who is
organizing it?  What else will be happening when they perform?  How the
two dancers' schedule will be?  Can we ask them to have a small workshop,
if we wish?  What do they dance?  Who is the girl in Lubbock?  Is there
anybody who will go to Lubbock from central Texas or somewhere else, and
could give us a ride (expecting a party of two, at least)?

Please let me know if you know anything about it.  I will post again if
anybody in this mailing-list/newsgroup shows interest.  Thanks for your
reply in advance!

---
yosuke kimura
Csardas Hungarian Dancers

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from bogus internet addresses, such as ns.sandes.dk, via aberrant internet
service providers, such as ns.cybercity.dk <vip.cybercity.dk>:

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In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, Amen.

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3.      Interactive services
3.1  What's available on the World Wide Web

 The following is the chapter recently removed from the main body of
the hungarian-faq. This is not yet completely re-edited for stand-alone
format, nor completing a collection of all important links has been
attempted. For more comprehensive WWW directories see, for example:
<http://www.hungary.com/hudir/>;, <http://www.hungary.com/hudir/>; or
<http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/homepage.html>;.
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versa): please note that interactive Internet connections like WWW
may be very slow, even timing out during peak hours - try times of
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interest.

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<http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/homepage.html>; with links to the
registered Hungarian www servers, including

     - the Prime Minister's Office:  <http://www.meh.hu>; (overseas users
    please notice that the use of the <http://www.hungary.com/meh/>;
    mirror is requested to cut down transatlantic traffic!)

     - a weather forecast page (this is updated daily, and includes weather
    forecasts, meteorological maps, and METEOSAT satellite images; this
    page is in Hungarian)

     - home pages of Hungarian cities (currently Budapest, Debrecen,
    Miskolc, Pecs, Szeged), and of educational and other institutions=20

     - a comprehensive list of Hungarian telnet services (e.g. library=20
    databases), gopher and ftp sites (3.2). The content of almost all the=
=20
    Hungarian FTP sites is indexed and can be searched.

 The Hungary Online Directory (HUDIR) is at
<http://www.hungary.com/hudir/>; featuring a hierarchical
database of Hungarian online content worldwide. Currently it has links
in excess of 2500.

 HIX has a WWW server in the USA: the URL is <http://www.hix.com>;.
To check out fresh content, see <http://www.hix.com/friss2/>;, which
gives you a comprehensive table of content for new material arrived in
the last 24 hours (which is typically in the order of 100-150 pages).
Besides back issues of its email journals, and a plethora of other
files in Hungarian and English, it offers an on-line English-Hungarian,
Hungarian-English dictionary (<http://www.hix.com/hix/szotar/>; - its
European mirror is at <http://tpri6l.gsi.de/szotar.html>;), and various
home pages and pointers to other sources. Partial mirrors located in
Hungary are <http://www.eunet.hu/eunet/hix/>; (for the Magyar Narancs
archive), and <http://hal9000.elte.hu/hix/>; (for some pictures, and
searching the Radir database - see below).

 Hungary.Network - The GateWWWay to Hungary at
<http://www.hungary.com/>; has a number of government, commercial and
organizational users listed.

 TourInform is at <http://www.hungary.com/tourinform/>; is the service
of the Hungarian Tourism Service, the official promotion agency of the
Hungarian Tourist Board. They offer practical information, maps,
broshures and even tours on video casette.

 The Open Media Research Institute has a WWW server, available at
<http://www.omri.cz>;.  Available at this Web site are all back issues
of the Daily Digest, tables of contents for Transition, OMRI's
bi-weekly analytical journal, and information about OMRI's activities
and staff.

 The World Wide Web server of Central Europe Today is at the URL
<http://www.eunet.cz>;.

 Find back issues of the Hungary Report on the World Wide Web at=20
<http://www.yak.net/hungary-report/>; or <http://www.isys.hu/hol>;.=20
The Hungary-Online archive is available from=20
<http://www.yak.net/hungary-online/>; or <http://www.isys.hu/hrep>;=20
as well.

 There is a growing Hungarian resource directory at
<http://mineral.umd.edu/hir/>;. [The same server also hosts a
 "Hungarian Electronic Resources FAQ"<http://mineral.umd.edu/faq/>;.]

 There is a"Foreign Languages for Travellers"collection of essential
Hungarian expressions with English, German and French explanation,
complete with sound at
<http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~mmartin/languages/hungarian/hungarian.htm=
l>.

 The American Association of Young Hungarians (AAYH) has its homepage
at <http://www.aayh.org/>;.

 A Hungarian church in Chicago has info at
 <http://users.aol.com/MikeC16958/>;.

 The Gyorgy Bessenyei Teachers Training College (Nyiregyhaza) offers=20
some 3000 pages worth of database for Szabolcs-Szatmar-Bereg county=20
(Eastern Hungary) as well as other goodies and general Internet help,
in both Hungarian and English: <http://www.bgytf.hu/>;.

 See also section 2.3 above, which covers
<http://www.siliconvalley.com/>; and refers to other links as well.

 The following is a somewhat random working list, in HTML format,
of webpages of interest recently announced (which I haven't yet had
the time to check out or incorporate with further description):

<A HREF=3D"http://www.fsz.bme.hu/wn/">
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<A HREF=3D"http://users.deltanet.com/~kingavp/">
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<A HREF=3D"http://mason.gmu.edu/~achassel/index.html">
 "Historical Text Archive, Hungarian Images and Historical Background"> =09=
</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/kfa4kuvasz/index.htm">
 "Kuvasz Fanciers of America" =09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mkogy.hu/">
 "Magyar Orsz=E1ggy=FBl=E9si Hivatal" =09</A> <P>

<A HREF=3D"http://www.nepszabadsag.hu/">
 "Nepszabadsag Online"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.datanet.hu/szignum">
 "Szignum Media Hirlevel"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/clients/bohemelet/">
 "Bohemelet"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.hdsys.hu/">
 "Az Apple Computer Magyarorszagon"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://silicon.terra.vein.hu/sci/intro.html">
 "Utilapu Halozat - SCI Hungary"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.fornax.hu/napi/">
 "Napi Gazdasag On-Line"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mhirlap.hu/">
 "Magyar Hirlap Ottlap"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/otherside">
 "Other Side Magazin"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.bdtf.hu/konyvtar/sup/sup.html">
 "A Savaria University Press Alapitvany honlapja"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://lingua.arts.klte.hu/summer/summer.htm">
 "Debrecen Summer School"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.eunet.hu/median/ifered.html">
 "Az elso magyar online internet-felmeres eredmenyei"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/jozsefattila">
 "Jozsef Attila"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://WWW.iSYS.hu/remindme">
 "RemindMe"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://WWW.iSYS.hu/nevnap/">
 "Nevnap Emlekezteto"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://WWW.iSYS.hu/nameday/">
 "Nameday Reminder"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.datanet.hu/primpress">
 "Ujsag"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.datanet.hu/artnet/beauty/index">
 "Virtualis Vilagszepe Valasztas 1996"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.fornax.hu/fmon/valuta/index.html">
 "Valuta arfolyamok"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.fornax.hu/fmon/commod/batmenu.html">
 "Budapesti Arutozsde napi statisztika"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.idg.hu/expo">
 "Internet Expo Hungarian Pavilion"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.idg.hu/internetto/friss/netinform/">
 "iNteRNeTTo, Budapest"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.kossuth.enet.hu/">
 "Kossuth Radio"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://year1100.iif.hu/">
 "Millecentenariumi rendezvenyek programfuzete"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.datanet.hu/szfold/szfold.htm">
 "Szabad Fold hetilap"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.sch.bme.hu/~steve/e-mail.html">
 "Kapcsolattartas e-mail utjan az Interneten"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.starkingnet.hu/bcc/internet_piac/">
 "interNET PIAC"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/bpweek">
 "Budapest Week"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.spiderweb.hu/jurix/jurix.html">
 "Jurix jogszabalygyujtemeny a halon"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.iqsoft.hu/pages/h_hmj.html">
 "HMJ - Magyar Gazdasagi Jogszabalyok Haromnyelvu gyujtemenye"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.inf.bme.hu/esatt_indis/docs_hu/rtdhun/hmj_e.html">
 "HMJ - Hungarian Economic Rules of Law"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.tiszanet.hu/mszp/">
 "MSZP Szeged"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.htbt.hu/">
 "H.T.BT. Honlap"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mav.hu/">
 "A MAV Rt. www szervere"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mav.hu/">
 "Hungarian State Railways Co."=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mek.iif.hu/">
 "Magyar Elektronikus Konyvtar (Web felulettel)"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.uni-miskolc.hu:8080/SZOTAR">
 "Angol-magyar, magyar-angol szotar"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.ikm.hu/">
 "Ipari, Kereskedelmi es Idegenforgalmi Miniszterium"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.bankonekt.hu/translat/mfe.htm">
 "Magyarorszagi Forditoirodak Egyesulete"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.bankonekt.hu/translat/mfe.htm">
 "Association of Hungarian Translation Companies"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.InterWare.hu/">
 "Szolgaltatasok az InterWare-nel"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.InterWare.hu/index.us.html">
 "Services at InterWare"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/emiquint/">
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<A HREF=3D"http://emc.elte.hu/~ve/index.html">
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 (Bogesz) wrote:

>elvtarsak! 

>ki ez a Coloradoi bunko?!
>    


>                                udvozlet Bogesz


Embertarsak! 

ki ez a Bogesz ?!

                             

                           udvozlet Bogesztelen

In article >,  says...
{....}
>       NATO, a military alliance, is being used now as a tool
>        in economic competition. You're begging to take you
>        for nothing in that game, so you will be treated as worth
>         nothing.
>
>
>Elena    

Elena,

Are you threatnig us ,too?
I do not want to insult your intelligence, so please give us
ONE good reason (save  all that old fashioned mumbling), just
the reason,  why Russia is doing everything to stop us
from geting our "destiny. " Why don't you just say:" Go ahead.
Make my day!"


>Less NAaaato hysteria,

Looks like Russia is the one who is the most hysterical about the subject.

Mr. Kudla
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Ukraine/ Russia - 67c/min;  UK - 18.5c/min; Germany - 29c/min.
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>

In article > ,
 writes:
>PS: Egyebkent mikor is tervezed vegleg letenni a lantot itt az
>Interneten, Tamas? 

Pentek(feb. 21)  este repulok haza.  Az nem zarja ki, hogy aznap
meg irjak valamit.  :-)

>Nagy kar lenne ez, s remelem talalsz valami hozzajutasi
>lehetoseget onnan, ahova koltozol. 

Majd csak akad valami. Az a gond, hogy nincs telefonvonalunk,
a bunkofonnal meg draga mulatsag. No nem a dijszabas, hanem
a kompoteres csatlakozo irrealisan magas ara miatt. Raadasul
komp'terem sincs. 

>Nem szeretnem ha hazulrol foleg csak a nagy "vizfej" lenne
>kepviselve az Interneten.  Azoktol eredetit ritkan lehet olvasni,
>tisztelet a kivetelnek.

Koszi ! 

>Hmmm, ez, ha jol emlekszem 1618-tol 48-ig tartott, de en valahogy abban
>a benyomasban eltem, hogy a 30 eves haborut elsosorban Magyarorszagtol
>nyugatra es eszakra vivtak, a keresztenyek egymas kozott, s az ozmansag
>nem szerepelt benne.

Bajban vagyok, tenyleg nem tudok most utananezni. Azonban harminceves
haborura emlexem, en is meglepodtem a neven, amikor eloszor olvastam.
(Nem igy tanultuk az iskolaban. ) Evekkel ezelott irtam egy hosszabb irast
a szalonba a magyar etnikai terkep torok mexallas okozta atalakulasarol,
akkor olvastam utana, tobb forrasbol.  Megprobalom azt elokeresni.

Tamas

Dear Emma:
Try yo contact the Eszak Dunantuli Aramszolgaltato Rt.
(roughly translated to: the Electric Company of Northern
Pannonia). Their homepage is located: 
<<  http://www.edasz.hu/index-e.html  >>
They probably can give you more info re. other sources as
well. Good luck!
Greetings:
Dominus v.





 (Emma G Bassett) wrote:

> I am a final year student within the Department of Electrical Engineering at 
the University of Edinburgh. As part of my final year studies I am required to 
perform a dissertaion.  The topic for which I have chosen to compare the restru
cturing of the Electricity Industries of Italy, Australia, Hungary with that of
 the UK.
> I am therefore particularly keen to find information on the industry within H
ungary, as much of the information I have sourced is not up to date.  I am inte
rested in learning at what stage of privatisation th eindustry is at, and how s
uccessful the restructuring has been.

> 
>Please, any information on this topic will be gratefully received .
>Please either reply to this or e-mail me at 
.

>Many thanks for the interest

>Emma Bassett

In article > ,  writes:
>Istvan pontja erdekel engem is . Evekkel azelott  olvastam
>hogy a nyelvtan szempontjabol eros a hasonlat a Tibeti es a magyar 
>nyelv kozott.

Nincsen igy. A tibeti nyelv a delkeletazsiai nyelvek csaladjaba tar-
tozik. Annyi koze van a magyarhoz, hogy Korocsi Csoma (?) csinalt
egy (talan epp az elso ?) tibeti szotarat.

Fred Hamori biztos tudna tobbet mondani errol.. talan irni kene
neki ?

>Tovabba, sok Tibeti hagyomanynak van majdnem parhuzamos
>magyar tortenete. 

Nehez elkepzelni, hogy egy hegyi nepnek es egy sztyeppei nepnek
azonos hagyomanyai legyenek. Olvastam tibeti mondakat, de sem-
mi hasonlatossagra nem emlexem. A tibeti buddhizmus gyokerei
nagyon regiek, ez olyan mertekben hatassal volt a kulturara, hogy
nehez anelkul a tibeti hagyomanyokrol beszelni. A magyarokat
ugyan kimutathatoan sok es valtozatos hatas erte, de a buddhiz-
mus nincs ezek kozott.  

Tamas

In article >,
Mr. Kudla > wrote:
>In article >,  says...
>{....}
>>       NATO, a military alliance, is being used now as a tool
>>        in economic competition. You're begging to take you
>>        for nothing in that game, so you will be treated as worth
>>         nothing.
>>
>>
>>Elena    
>
>Elena,
>
>Are you threatnig us ,too?

;-) No one is or was making any threats under this topic.
   

>I do not want to insult your intelligence, so please give us
>ONE good reason (save  all that old fashioned mumbling), just
>the reason,  why Russia is doing everything to stop us
>from geting our "destiny. " Why don't you just say:" Go ahead.
>Make my day!"

Probably because Russia doesn't like NATO missles deployed
around her borders. Also, i think, because Russia is striving
against new iron curtain in Europe built from the west side.

Don't worry, you'll here that after/if become NATO members
while still depending on Russian gas and energy ;-)



>>Less NAaaato hysteria,
>


>Looks like Russia is the one who is the most hysterical about the subject.
>
>Mr. Kudla
>-- 
>Save on your LD calls NOW! USA only 12.9c/min; Poland - 46c/min;
>Ukraine/ Russia - 67c/min;  UK - 18.5c/min; Germany - 29c/min.
>Visit:  http://ld.net/?grazyna  - for details.
>


   i said : and more numbers, Mr. Kudla, like those of
   Russian per capita that you have yet looong way to go... ;-)

   Still your phone rates look foul.


Elena

On 23 Feb 1997 00:47:57 GMT, aheringer > wrote:
>In article >, 
 says...
>>
>>My personal favorite is Csilla (chilla).  
>>
>>Kristof
>
>I also forgot about Piroska

Since somebody already "stole" my line about suggesting "Csilla", let me
add another one: Re'ka.  BTW, anybody knows the origin of these two
names?  On the latter, I suspect Rachel or Rebekka, but it's just a wild
guess.  But if it was right, it would not qualify Reka as an original
Hungarian name, of course.  But I still like it for some reason. 

Joe Pannon
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Right on Erika!
Your reasoned response is the best way to handle hateful lies.
Istvan

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pavol wrote:

>  Madars, wake up. Austrohungary is OVER. There is nothing
> you can do about it.

Why are YOU still chewing on it ever since? I do NOT think that the 
majority in Hungary wants to get back all these parts but it is wrong to 
forget that there are people living there who call themselves Hungarians. 
 You could look at it another way. What would a reunion do to the 
Hungary´s economy? Rebuild infrastructure costs a lot of money. And 
Slovakia could use a little bit more infrastructure as well as Romenia. 

> Do not complain about discrimination, because we can go back in
> time and we can see who is/was rasist.  


Racist, nationalist or chauvinist? (perhaps I spelled it wrong), I don't 
think that speaking Slovakian or Hungarian is a racial question. We are 
not that different.


Erika

In article >,  says...

>Mr. Kudla:


>Judging fron what I have read in your postings I have to conclude that
>your definitions of "free mind" and "intelligence" are a way off mine.

I know. I told you so.

[...]

>Second, let me put it this way. You say it is your business only
>as to with whom you wanna make friends. Agreed.

GOOD! And don't you forget it!

>. You asked for it --
>Go ahead. Now Russia tells NATO that she will reassess its attitude
>towards this organization unless 

Yeah, there is always that little "unless"

> It just happens that it ( Russia? -Mr. K.) is oneof the West as well. 


Draem on.

 
>The irony of your sitiation is that you are convinced that Russians
>sleep and dream of colonizing you and converting your countries into
>suburbs of the New Great Russian Empire. Wake up --- the commies are
>gone.

And you want anybody to believe in it?

> The only danger that Russia presents nowadays is one
>of self-destruction.

It is not the only danger , but I know that.

> But that is going to work out

I hope so.


> Bottomline is that our world needs time for the former
>enemies to get to understand each other better and build mutual trust.

Now you talking sensibly.

>Capitalism is not conducive to friendship, but we can live with it.
>Fair competition will be enough.

That's all  what we asking for.

>Unfortunately, this is just words.
>In real life big business prefers to use all the tricks including foul
>play to get competitors our of their way. "Press them and they will
>bend".
>Maybe you like it, Russia does not. And never will.

There goes your idea of FAIR COMPETITION !

> And spare me your pitiful "you are threatening us" 

I will not!!! WHY? Keep going.

> Only small guys and self-belittling nations will understand your worries. 

Small guys hav the right to life , too.

>Wagger you tail and be happy. Barking at elephants won't help. 

There you go again. YOU are THREATENING!
I know, you cant help it. It's in your blood.

No response necessary.

Mr. Kudla