>hagyomanyra valo hivatkozas. ervelesi hiba

A tarsadalom elete a hagyomanyon alapul. Minden olyan kiserlet, amely a
hagyomanytol elszakadva, pusztan racionalis szempontok alapjan akarta
rendezni a tarsadalom eletet, megbukott, de kozben iszonyu szenvedeseket
okozott. Ezert ezt ervelesi hibanak minositeni enyhen szolva a kerdes meg
nem erteserol tanuskodik.

>> Bizonyos ertelemben mas mufaj, mint az alkotmany
>>normaszovege.
>igy van. ezert nem is valo oda.

Ez egy velemeny, amelyet a kerdessel foglalkozok tobbsege nem oszt.

>az alkotmany a politikai rendszer alapja, es csak annyi a feladata, hogy
>ezt
>megtegye. a kultura meglete elofeltetel, ami az alkotmanynak nem feladata

Ha az alkotmany nincs a kulturaval osszhangban, nem arra epul, nem fog
mukodni. Ezert a jo alkotmany igenis a kulturalis elozmenyekre epit, es
felreertesek elkerulese vegett helyes is ezt kifejteni.

>egy embercsoport nem
>fel
>tetlenul azert alakit meg egy allamot,mert kulturalis azonossagot erez.

De ha nincs kulturalis azonossag, az allam rosszul fog mukodni. Vegtelen
naivitas azt hinni, hogy egy olyan allam, amely nem polgarainak kulturalis
hagyomanyaira epit, jol fog mukodni.

>az EU-ban.
>alapeszme
>, hogy nincs egy identitas.

Ezt meg honnan veszed? Te nem erzed magad europainak? Nem erzed, hogy
kozotted es egy nemet vagy egy francia kozott lenyegesen tobb hasonlo vonas
van, mint kozotted es egy kambodzsai vagy gaboni kozott?

>ha egy szekularis erkolcs kereszteny jelleget hordoz, akkor tokeletlen.
>akkor n
>em szekularis.

Pedig a szekularis erkolcs nem szakithato el a tortenelmi elozmenyeitol. Az
altalad elkepzelt "tokeletes", a tortenelmi es tarsadalmi korulmenyektol
fuggetlenitett erkolcs csak a fantazia birodalmaban letezik.

>egy masik onellentmondas. fogalmazd at a mondandodat ugy, hogy ertelmezheto
>leg
>yen.

Persze hogy nem erted, ha a valosaggal nem erintkezo alapelveid vannak. Az
arab kollega egyszeruen arra celzott, hogy hiaba valik valaki ateistava,
annak a gondolkodasmodnak szamos elemetol, amelybe belenott, es amelynek
kialakulasaban jelentos szerepe volt az altala megtagadott vallasnak, nem
tud szabadulni. Erre azt mondhatnad, hogy olyan gondolkodasmodot kell
kialakitani, amely teljesen fuggetlen minden vallastol. Azonban az a baj,
hogy ez meg senkinek sem sikerult; es meg az sincs bebizonyitva, hogy
egyaltalan lehetseges.

>szerinted szerepeljen a kommunizmus a Magyar Alkotmanyban?

Hat talan nem is lenne rossz, hiszen az emberek gondolkodasa
kitorolhetetlenul tele van a kommunizmus nyomaival.

>Nem tudom, hogy letezik-e ilyen, hogy europaisag. Nincs kozos nyelv, nincs
>kozos tortenelem,

Lasd, amit fentebb mondtam. De van kozos nyelvi orokseg, amelynek alapja a
latin (es reszben a gorog), amely a szokincs jelentos reszet kozosse teszi,
az europaiak az ujkor eleje ota nagymertekben tanultak egymas nyelvet, a
tudomany kozos, beszelhetunk vilagirodalomrol, amely lenyegeben europai
irodalom (Shakespeare elvalaszthatatlan a nemet vagy a magyar irodalomtol,
na de a kinaitol?). Aminek aldozataul esel, az egy optikai csalodas. Nem is
ismered azt, ami Europan kivul van, es azert azt hiszed, hogy az nincs is.
Az europai nepek kozotti kulonbsegeket es ellenteteket abszolut modon
felnagyitod, a hasonlosagokat pedig eszre sem veszed.

>es keszul csatlakozni olyan orszag, mint
>Cipr
>us, Torokorszag.

Torokorszag felvetele oriasi ellenallasba utkozik, eppen azert mert nem
tekintik europai szellemisegu orszagnak.

Mara ennyit.

Ferenc

bocs, hogy angol.

http://www.contemporarynurse.com/12-2p103.htm

What is SQ?
Clarifying upfront that SQ has nothing to do with religion, spiritual
movements
, sects or belief systems, Zohar described it as an internal, innate
ability of
 the human brain and psyche, resting in that deep part of the self that is
conn
ected to wisdom beyond the ego, or conscious mind. SQ is our deep human
need fo
r, and access to, meaning, vision, values and a sense of purpose in our
lives. 
It is the intelligence with which we heal ourselves and with which we make
ours
elves whole.
Zohar reasoned that SQ is a concept that is firmly grounded in quantum
physics 
and recent research in the field of neurophysiology. Because SQ operates
litera
lly out of the brain's centre – from the brain's neurological
unifying fu
nctions – it integrates all our intelligences.

Scientific evidence for SQ
Zohar and Marshall dealt with questions such as how we have SQ and how it
funct
ions in the human brain. Using some of the most recent scientific research
avai
lable, their work draws on a body of recent neurological, psychological and
ant
hropological studies of human intelligence, as well as studies of human
thinkin
g and linguistic processes, to provide scientific evidence for SQ. First,
they 
cite research carried out in the 1990s, by neuropsychologist Michael
Persinger 
(Persinger 1996) and neurologist V.S. Ramachandran at the University of
Califor
nia (Ramachandran and Blakeslee 1998), on the existence of a 'God Spot' in
the 
human brain. This built-in spiritual centre is located among neural
connections
 in the temporal lobes of the brain. These neural areas light up on scans
taken
 with positron emission topography whenever research subjects are exposed
to di
scussion of spiritual or religious topics, or when talking about what is
deeply
 meaningful to them. Subjects report expe!
riences of profound peace, unity, love and spirituality. Such temporal
activity
 has been linked for years to people who suffer from temporal epilepsy,
seizure
s, or people who take LSD. Ramachadran's work is the first to show it
active in
 normal people. The 'God Spot' does not prove the existence of God, but it
does
 provide a basis for understanding how the brain gives us spiritual
experience.

References

Persinger MA (1996) 'Feelings of Past Lives as Expected Perturbations
within th
e Neurocognitive Processes that Generate the Sense of Self: Contributions
from 
Limbic Lability and Vectorial Hemisphericity', Perceptual and Motor Skills,
83(
2): 1107-1121.

Ramachadran VS and Blakeslee S (1996) Phantoms in the Brain, Fourth Estate,
Lon
don.

Zohar D and Marshall I (2000): Spiritual Intelligence: The Ultimate
Intelligenc
e, Bloomsbury Publishing, London. 



http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=57074&node_id=1364273


God spot
 (thing) by briglass (9.6 hr) (print)    ?   2 C!s Mon Sep 23 2002 at
11:53:25 
 


My religion teacher gave everyone in the class a small tub of white clay
and in
structed us to form something that resembles our perception of God. Some
people
 made crosses, faces of old men, perfectly round spheres, or even rainbows.

I shaped my God into a brain. We took turns explaining our shape to the
class. 
I had to sort of ease the class into liking my idea without letting them
know I
 was an atheist for fear of alienation, since I was the only non-christian.

"Oh, God exists alright. In your brain, you see," I eased.

"Ahhh," they nodded, "so it's like God exists in my mind."

I didn't get into specifics, but if I would have, I would have said this:
Moder
n neurological experimentation leads to the conclusion that spirituality is
har
dwired into the brain. Of course, many had already privately concluded this
not
ion of spirituality as a function of the brain.

The seperate research of Michael Persinger and Vilayanur Ramachandran puts
fort
h demonstrations of the god spot in vitro and in vivo, respectively.

Persinger set up shop at Laurentian University in Sudbury, Canada. He
subjected
 the brains of volunteers to an electromagnetic pulse gun and documented
their 
reports. Specifically, he narrowed the pulse in on a little area of the
tempora
l lobe. Persinger succeeded in illiciting episodes of intense spiritual
feeling
s and out of body experiences even in patients who defined themselves as
not be
ing spiritual. Many people assume these sensations, that occur naturally,
prove
 the existence of the divine or an afterlife.

Now, I know what you are thinking. If God is capable of communicating
through t
he soul then obviously there needs to be a mechanism in the brain that can
dete
ct this. Quite frankly, believing in this refute is a fine way to ignore
Occam'
s razor and continue on massaging your god spot.

Persinger pointed out other ways you can massage your god spot and bring
about 
spiritual feelings:

Put yourself in a stressful situation such as in a car accident or before
an ex
am. 
Decrease the amount of oxygen that reaches your brain. 
Quickly raise or lower your blood sugar level. 
Fast. 
Deprive yourself of sleep. 
Have a seizure (see below). 
Take some drugs. 
Perform repetitive acts such as chanting, dancing, and meditation. 
Ramachandran took a different approach in studying the god spot. In his
October
 1997 publication, "The Neural Basis of Religious Experience," he organized
the
 spiritual experiences of subjects prone to Temporal Lobe Epilepsy (TLP).
The r
esulting sensations mirrored Persinger's artificial demonstrations of a
natural
ly occuring neurological phenomenon.

Yes, I know the god spot is tough to swallow. Even after years of thinking
abou
t it and writing this, my body is still trying to explain it to my brain.

But what will always surprise me more (or perhaps not at all) is that you
can r
ead the God e2node and find no instance of the word brain.

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